Piracy still a PC problem? F2P to the rescue!

August 22nd, 2012

Ubisoft has a rocky history with PC gamers who accuse the publisher of locking up their games in off putting ways or intentionally delaying the release of their PC games to thwart piracy. 

But there may be a silver lining. Ubisoft business guy Yves Guillemot told Games Industry this week that thanks to free-to-play games, the company is more committed to PC than it has been in the past. 

In other words, it really is the future of gaming

"We want to develop the PC market quite a lot and F2P is really the way to do it," he said. "The advantage of F2P is that we can get revenue from countries where we couldn't previously—places where our products were played but not bought."

According to Guillemot, "only five to seven percent of free to play players actually pay. But normally on PC it's only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated."

That ends up being the same percentage of paying customers he says. But not only are free to play games capable of netting even more than $50-60 per user (some pay upwards of $100-200+), free-to-play payments are "more long term," Guillemot says, which is an incentive to focus more on PC game development moving forward. 

Regardless of what you think of Guillemot's numbers, it's nice to see free-to-play combating the piracy stigma, an issue the platform has long since struggled with. What do you think?

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I agree that piracy is really beating up the gaming industry, if you really like a developer and you like their games why wouldn't you get a copy of it for real and not pirated. Also I do think that F2P is somewhat stopping piracy by giving pirates something to do for free. Though I don't think it is the answer to the problem.

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Edit: Apparently not. I think it's good that many games went f2p, this stops the pirating. Not many customers are willing to buy a game that they have to pay for to play afterwards.

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I'd like to see the numbers on Ubisofts claim of 93-95% piracy.

In the western world, I'm sure a decent amount do. In non first world countries, people cannot afford a 60$ game so nearly all of them pirate it.

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"But normally on PC it's only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated."

They kinda overestimate the number of people that play their games obviously...

err...puff?!?

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So where does this "Guillemot" got his stats from??
"only five to seven percent of free to play players actually pay. But normally on PC it's only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated."

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It's sad game companies want the free to play model and try to defend their position by saying that it helps to curb piracy. The reason why they want free to play is because it can generate more money. Game publishers are full of shit.

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Ya I think the guy is talking out his ass. I find it really hard to believe that only 95% of people who play the game bought it. Even if its true I'll bet the stat is flawed. I personally know people who will pirate a game to make sure it runs and its interesting (since for some reason demos have become taboo) and then if they like it get it (usually through steam).

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NightHawk21 said: Ya I think the guy is talking out his ass. I find it really hard to believe that only 95% of people who play the game bought it. Even if its true I'll bet the stat is flawed. I personally know people who will pirate a game to make sure it runs and its interesting (since for some reason demos have become taboo) and then if they like it get it (usually through steam).

this honestly is the only kind of piracy i think is okay you download the game see if it works and is any good and if it is go out and buy a copy not only does it prove the game is any good but also keeps the companies happy

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i agree good research

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i just wish all would relies this and make most game ftp

also game thats free like LOL i spent 1500 on myself and prob 200-300 for friends.

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League of Legends has shown how it's done with F2P. They even put a huge prize money on tournaments wich shows how good they earn with their game.

Signature space for sale! :D 1$ = 1 day, 2 $ = lifetime :D

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stickher said: i agree good research


How is that good research? He makes certain claims and there are no reports to back up his claims.

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I do not see how they get their numbers. 93-95% piracy is absurd! I have many games and paid for all of them, all of my friends that game do the same. I dislike F2P because if I want a game I'll pay the $50-$60 and have it or wait until the awesome sales that Steam has (like the Steam summer sale). It seems like it is all one big excuse for them to make more money by switching to F2P. No word of them getting rid of DRM by switching to F2P...anyone know?

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Well, F2P is all fine and good, but what is Ubisoft (a company that is famous for their single-player titles) going to do with it? I can't see a single player game going free2play, unless it's like a demo-to-full version type thing, where you have to pay for it to play the entire game or something like that...

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I'm gonna be honest yes I play pirated games for 2 reasons. One I want to ensure that my computer can run said game and 2, I'm a fan of try it before you buy it. I'm sorry but I don't have 40-60 bucks to blow for a new game every week. So w/ that being said if I like the game oh hell yea I'll go out n buy it. If not..well it gets deleted and put under my "I tried it" bin on my video game shelf

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i dont like f2p^^

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Piracy is a problem i agree with that but its mostly due to the poor porst and lack of support for pc players. Just look at prototype 2 u coudent even use mouse and keyboard and in ghost recon futer soldier the online was really bad. SO they come and ask for full price. I buy games like witcher 2 that are worth paying for.

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Addice said:
stickher said: i agree good research


How is that good research? He makes certain claims and there are no reports to back up his claims.
Lol he is in it for the ARP I bet he didn't even read the article.

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well I do still think there will be a private server. Just because some game are free doesn't mean everyone would play it. For example, If someone is really addicted to WoW but can't afford the monthly payment. I'm sure they will look for a private server ^_^.

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It's nice to see a developer taking piracy into account and figuring out a way to still make gaming profitable. Unfortunately piracy seems like it's not going away any time soon, but clever developers should get props for ensuring that gaming sticks around too!

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I never pirate though i have thought about it so many times. i have wasted many dollars on games I would play maybe 1/2hr and be like this is crap. I don't like F2P for the simple fact that I would rather have the enjoyment of grinding for my items (Though it can be annoying as all hell) rather than stopping by the shop and purchasing the best of the best. To me it takes the fun out of it

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yes,f2p is good and all,and buying the game to help support the developers is great to,but in some countries there is no original copy of the game for sale and you cant download the f2p games ether,so some people are forced to buy the pirated copy of the game,cuz if they dont,they dont play the game at all.

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The F2P model aint free @ all actually u usually pay in F2P more than if u purchase a normal game, that's why most companies now are releasing games under the banner of "Free-to-Play".

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i'd give that guy some props if he came out and admitted all the drm that ubisoft piled on their games just inconvenienced non-pirates.

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That's why I always loved F2P games!

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