Forbes calls Star Citizen’s development "mismanagement on a galactic scale" and fans aren't happy

Sounds about right. When he was involved in game development, which he hadn't done for about ten years before starting this whole thing, he was just the creative team head. In any creative works related business, you need people not only concerned with the creative end, but the business end as well, or else things likely won't get done very effectively, and lots of money can get wasted. You could just tell that's what was happening, as self set deadline, after deadline was past, while he was just adding more, and more, and more things to the project, without really getting anything done, as well as going back to redo this, or that which had been at least mostly finished.

PhoenixShi said:

Sounds about right. When he was involved in game development, which he hadn't done for about ten years before starting this whole thing, he was just the creative team head. In any creative works related business, you need people not only concerned with the creative end, but the business end as well, or else things likely won't get done very effectively, and lots of money can get wasted. You could just tell that's what was happening, as self set deadline, after deadline was past, while he was just adding more, and more, and more things to the project, without really getting anything done, as well as going back to redo this, or that which had been at least mostly finished.

While I agree development is slow, I don't agree that they're wasting resources more than other developers.. like the article from Anthem (Eeeekk!!).  They've had setbacks yes, they've had a lawsuit with Crytech (Uhh, sue your customers? okay..) etc, but they've also got some amazing technology working that has made the potential of the game leaps and bounds better.  On your point about needing buisness minded people, they have that in spades, but it's difficult to butt heads with Chris.  His own brother Erin is one of those that gets VERY little credit for keeping things in check.  He's helped produce quite a few games last I checked, like the hit Lego games.  They also have strong studio heads in the other four studio locations across the globe.  This Forbes article is embarrassing, not to Chris and Sandi, everyone's got shit in their past.. but embarrassing to Forbes.  They've really taken a turn for the worse if they're dependent on writing pieces like this.

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All promises aside, is the game fun as it is right now?  That's the important question.

It sure sounds like mismanagement, but I'm missing the detailed informations on this.

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Dominister said:

PhoenixShi said:

Sounds about right. When he was involved in game development, which he hadn't done for about ten years before starting this whole thing, he was just the creative team head. In any creative works related business, you need people not only concerned with the creative end, but the business end as well, or else things likely won't get done very effectively, and lots of money can get wasted. You could just tell that's what was happening, as self set deadline, after deadline was past, while he was just adding more, and more, and more things to the project, without really getting anything done, as well as going back to redo this, or that which had been at least mostly finished.

While I agree development is slow, I don't agree that they're wasting resources more than other developers.. like the article from Anthem (Eeeekk!!).  They've had setbacks yes, they've had a lawsuit with Crytech (Uhh, sue your customers? okay..) etc, but they've also got some amazing technology working that has made the potential of the game leaps and bounds better.  On your point about needing buisness minded people, they have that in spades, but it's difficult to butt heads with Chris.  His own brother Erin is one of those that gets VERY little credit for keeping things in check.  He's helped produce quite a few games last I checked, like the hit Lego games.  They also have strong studio heads in the other four studio locations across the globe.  This Forbes article is embarrassing, not to Chris and Sandi, everyone's got shit in their past.. but embarrassing to Forbes.  They've really taken a turn for the worse if they're dependent on writing pieces like this.

If you feel your customer is ripping you off, or otherwise violating their contract, while not showing a willingness to correct matters, with there being a good sum of money involved, yeah, you sue them. His brother is supposedly a business mind that will stand up to him, that's a joke, right? Potential, almost fifteen years ago I asked the supporters of Vendetta Online (a space based MMO) why they support the game, and that's what they said, they're paying for potential. Now almost fifteen years later, and there's still stuff they promised back then that have yet to be finished, like for them to finally hit version 1.9, in a game they admitted was released prematurely, due to running out of money, again, and would be at a solid release ready state when they reach version 2.0, as it takes them waaaaaay longer than they predict to finish anything, until they eventually would stop giving expected dates often enough in the devs passion project, sound familiar?

Then this report, has been in-line with others on the matter made over the years, so either each of those unrelated publications looked at the facts, and all saw things were not going well, because things are not going well, and you're being biased, or each of those unrelated publications got it wrong, and all the biased fans are correct to have full faith in Roberts, despite all the warning signs. Guess which way I'm leaning.

mojrzesz2 said: My younger brother graduated three times since development of SC started. He's starting Uni this fall and I wonder if SC will be launched before he gets his Master's degree...

Your younger brother's kids may get that masters degree, while the game is still functionally unreleased. I'm kinda joking when I say that, and kinda not, as it is entirely possible it may never get released, for one reason, or another. That, or it could end up being like Vendetta Online, as I mentioned above, is "released" but in what they admitted was not really a release ready state, as they ran out of money, again, so put out what they had, in an effort to get some income rolling in. Now almost fifteen years later, is still not even at version 1.9, when they claimed that was right around the corner almost fifteen years ago, let alone finishing the fabled release ready mark of version 2.0.

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